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Chord question for piano players. I need to know the keys for these chords?

Q. F minor 7 over E flat
F7
B flat 7 over D
C7 flat 9
G minor 7 flat 5

Thanks

A. There are chord charts all over the internet.

Basic chord structure should be easy for a pianist to learn. You are a pianist according to your profile.

1. Eb in the bass, F, Ab, C (Eb) -- but I wouldn't play the second Eb
2. F, A, C, Eb
3. D in the bass, Bb D F Ab
4. C, E G Ab Bb -- but voicing is the key to this chord -- a good way to play it is: Left hand C and Bb, Right hand E (G) Ab C -- I would leave out the G

5. G Bb Db F -- some folks call it a "half diminished 7th"

This is pretty basic theory, and I would start learning it now. A good pianist should have these at her fingertips.

Cheers

Glinzek

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Reference for chord voicings on piano?
Q. Hi, I was wondering if you guys know of any online reference or book with different chord voicing styles? Lol, I have writers block right now and need some inspiration. Thanks in advance.

A. "Chord voicing styles" ... I'm not sure what that means. Are you asking for a chord chart, inversion of chords, or progressions. I personally don't like the approach of writing music from a chord progression; I write melody first and then work on the harmony.

I don't have any ready reference for chord progressions, but you can go to http://www.pianoworld.com/fun/vpc/piano_chords.htm to build chords and scales.

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Why do chord progressions have to follow the 'Chart'?
Q. If you have ever studied music theory, you know what I'm talking about (If not, just google "Chord Progression Chart"). Be as detailed as possible. Talk about what would happen if you didn't choose to follow the chart. Don't say, "It has to follow the circle of fifths" without explaining to me WHY that is important.

A. I went through music conservatory as a piano performance major and later did a second upper-level training in theory and composition, and never -- in all that classical study -- ever seen a "Chord Progression Chart."

ADD: I just googled it: this is a form of popular music theory, and specific for guitar playing more than actual 'music theory.' Please Do Not Mistake It In Any Way As Music Theory: what you learn from a chart like that would not qualify you for admittance to or be of any help to you in a freshman college theory 101 class. It may help you learn your way around basic guitar, but if you ever want a handle on music theory, of any sort, I'd ditch it. Thinking in nothing but 'chords' is very "pop theory" and wholly detrimental to your full development as a musician, regardless of musical genre. /// The shock there is another planet of music theory, often at odds with the pop theory terminology, shows up often enough in this category of Y/A, especially when it comes to analysis and identifying chords beyond the basic triads and seventh chords. END ADD

Some chords work, to all ears, better than others going one to the next. Initially, it is what is first learned, classical or other theory, since one has to start somewhere, and from the basics and beginning is almost always the best as well as most logical starting point. I repeat your chord chart has at least as much or more to do with 'the handiness' of playing guitar at a basic level vs. actual theoretic musical use, or other real musical possibility.

After one further investigates theory, there are no 'rules' but only examples of how, formerly, someone else 'made music work.'

If everyone 'followed the chart,' as if it were a law there would be no more music, no need to make anymore, and all listeners would be bored to tears!

Some progressions, within a certain context, may have one chord sounding really 'weak' - and your flow or structure collapse. That same chord, approached with different horizontal voicing of parts - individual lines, in an otherwise similar harmonic context, could sound 'fine.' That is nothing you will learn to do anything about if you are studying 'chord - chord - chord' instead of approaching those chords as a consequence of several simultaneous lines. -- Because, that is after all, how you learn enough to make anything sound good!

No rules, no laws, just examples of what most commonly 'works' or what others before you have made 'work.' At the time, at least in the common practice period of classical theory, what ended up in textbooks was 'breaking rules' of that day!

You are in trouble if you take those examples you study as a rule or 'law.' - you may have to mimic those examples closely for an assignment, that is so you learn how to work them yourself. It is not intended that will be the way you 'should' or will later compose.

That chart, again, is for pop music more than anything, all the conventional progressions, and very much about how to physically negotiate the guitar while mucking about within that set of conventions. It is a list of what has commonly worked and been done before, no more, no less.


Best regards.

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