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why are guitar and piano chords different?

Q. when i play C major Chord on the piano, the notes are C E G
But when my friend, who playes the guitar, plays it the notes he plays are C E C, for the same sound to come out. which is what he was taught to play in order to achieve a c major chord.

Why is it CEC sounds like a C chord, and is used as a C chord, but isn't on the piano.

Can someone explain ty.

A. Ok, first of all, C E C is not a chord. This would be an interval (which will sound like an open version of the piano chord). The reason it sounds almost the same, is that the ARE the same notes.

Now, the only difference between piano and guitar chords is the order in which the notes are located through the instrument and hence on the chords.

Simply put, piano chords are put together by the order in which you decide to lay out your hands through the octaves. On the guitar youre physically limited by the way your hand can stretch to make chord formations.

Explanation:
On the guitar, you are limited by what your hands can do on the instrument. With your right hand, you´ll almost always have to play at least 4 strings at the same time to play a chord (minimum 3), this is required because the body of the instrument restraints your right hand to certain movements to play a chord. Even more so if you´re strumming. On the left hand this is further limited, by the way the guitar is tuned, meaning that you dont have much choice but to use the chord notes that you can reach with your left hand. You cant really choose to put together the chord notes in any order because the guitar strings have specific notes and your hand has a limited reaching span.

For instance, on the guitar you cant choose to put together a C chord like this
string1: C
string2: E
string3: G
string4: C
String5: E
String6: G
It would be downright impossible to reach all those notes with your left hand at the same time.

However, on the piano, you can easily get this chord formation by laying two hands on two octaves

So, if you play C on the piano, the notes will likely be on that order. C E G and maybe a 7th (B), all played in that order. On the guitar a common formation for C would be (from the sixth string down): E C E G C E.

If you locate these exact notes on the piano and play them in the exact order and octave they're layed out on the guitar chord, it WILL SOUND EXACTLY THE SAME.

Original Question

Piano Chord Help Please?!?!?!?!?
Q. I am starting to learn to play piano chords for our church worship team and I have a few questions....

1. What is the difference between a B4 chord and a Bsus Chord?
- I've looked both of them up and keep finding B, E, F# for both.

2. What is a B5 Chord?

3. How am I supposed to play a F#m11 Chord???
- My fingers don't even reach all the notes!

Thanks!

A. Relax, its easy.
We give numbers to the position of the notes in the scale. There are only seven notes in music (A B C D E F G) so when you reach the next note with the same names they just repeat over but now they are called 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 and 15 would be the same as the first note that you had.
eg on C Major
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
C D E F G A B C D E F G A B C

Chords are made using the 1+3+5 notes of the tonic scale. (tonic means sound name, fromthe word tone)
The Major chord is 1 3 5
The minor chord is 1 b3 5

A suspended chord has the middle note REMOVED so that there is neither a Major or a minor interval. So a suspended chord would use 1 2 4 5. this is because it uses ALL the notes with the 3 interval removed.

sus = 1 2 4 5
sus2= 1 2 5 (The number is added so that you will only play that note and not both)
sus4= 1 4 5 (the number is added so that you will only play that note and not both.)

So B4 (is not really a chord, so its probably a misprint. You will have to judge by sound.)
B4 would be just two notes= 1 4

Bsus= B C# E F#
Bsus2=B C# F#
Bsus4=B E F#
B4= B E
B5= B F#

when they write a chord as a 5 chord they are telling you to only play two notes from the chord, the first and the fifth. This is sometimes called a power chord and its just a quick way to write it.

Okay, now to the chords you cant reach.
You play notes up to the EIGHTH with your left hand, anything from NINE or higher is played in your right hand. Youre just using two hands to play one chord.
NOTICE that C6 is an A and C13 is also an A. the chord is the same, you just add the note into your r.h.
You wont be stretching. I can reach a tenth, thats about the maximum. (Some men=really tall ones can reach a 12 but its rare)

Major= 1 3 5
minor= 1 b3 5
dim= 1 b3 b5
aug(+) 1 3 #5
7= 1 3 5 b7
M7=1 3 5 7
9= 1 3 5 b7 9
11=1 3 4 b7 9 11
13=1 3 5 b7 9 11 13

F#m11= 1 b3 5 b7 9 11
= F# A C# E G# B
(NOTE: ANY chord that has a number HIGHER than a 7 INCLUDES the 7 in the chord!=important!)
So, you would play F#m7 in your left hand= F# A C# E
and you would play G#m in your right= G# B
OR OR OR
You would play F#m l.h.=F# A C# and E in r.h.= E G# B Its the same chord)

either way the B has to be played in the RH for the chord to be correct, if it was in the lower octave (LH) it would have been called a sus4!)
If you want to cheat (Make it easer) just play F#m in LH and a single B in the R.H. (they wont notice)

Playing chords like this is sometimes called POLYCHORDS (Some made up term that doesnt really exist but...)

http://www.jazztheorylessons.com
/category/chord-theory/


Have fun!
Cat
(sorry about the error I've now corrected-it was 3am here...For some reason I wrote the answer for F#m13! It is corrected now...hope I didnt confuse you too much...)

Original Question

piano, thoery, chords, sevenths.?
Q. Could somebody please explain sevenths to me a little bit more, major seventh, minor seventh and dominant seventh. I really seem to lack understanding of this. For dominant seventh i just add 3 semi tones, but i dont think thats a good way to learn it ? .. i've heared your suppose to learn it through keys, for example if somebody says play 1, 5, 1, 3 in c major scale, you would play, cmajor, gmajor, cmajor and Emajor, and if somebody said play 2, you play Dminor? .. im really starting to confuse myself. So back to my original question, can someone please explain all the forms of maj7 using maybe c, cmaj7 all the ways to form that and whats the rules for it etc.. same with cmin7, please just explain this as best you can :) ... sorry if my question was abit hard for you to understand but thanks :D

A. Major seventh:
This is the interval of 11 semitones. So from a C to a B, that's a major seventh.

Minor seventh:
This is the interval of 10 semitones. So from a C to a Bb, that's a minor seventh.

Dominant Seventh:
See, in a scale, say for example, C major, each triad has a corresponding triadic function. The C is the Tonic (I), D - supertonic (ii), E - mediant (iii), F - subdominant (IV), G - dominant (V), A - submediant (vi), B - leading tone (viio), then to the tonic once more. The capital letters and the small letters correspond to major and minor chords. Capital letters for major, and small letters for minor.

Dominant seventh, you add a seventh to the dominant chord. That's a G in this case. You add the minor seventh here. So this chord is G-B-D-F.

You do not always play major chords. If it is in C major, D, and E are minor and B is diminished. In that example you gave, you play I V(7) I iii. C, G(7), C, Em. Unless it goes to the dominant of C major, G major, then you may be allowed to play a D major.

You need to at least know which key you are in so you know if you are to play a major or a minor.

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